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A 33voices Interview with Jonah Berger on Why Understanding is the Key to Influence

An Interview with Jonah Berger on Why Understanding is the Key to Influence

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No business exists without a customer; and no customers exist without marketing outreach – So, how is it that two businesses selling the same exact product/service can have vastly different results? Wharton Marketing Professor, Jonah Berger rejoins Moe Abdou to discuss the science of influence and why it starts with deep understanding.

Why understanding is the key to change

Having built, coached, and advised leadership and sales teams around the world, I’ve always felt strongly about the delicate balance between integrity and influence. Too often in leadership – and particularly in sales – the lines between ethics and technique are too often blurred – with the latter driven more by the desire to meet sales targets and less by an understanding of the customer.

There’s no denying that value and profitability are the hallmarks of any successful organization; still the ones that endure look beyond the obvious. In this episode, I’m rejoined by Wharton Marketing Professor, Jonah Berger to explore why push tactics almost always backfire, and what the science of human behavior can teach us about individual and organizational change. His philosophy is capture by the metaphor REDUCE and is the subject of his latest book – The Catalyst: How To Change Anyone’s Mind.

Episode Overview:

  • The evolution of marketing from 2010-2020
  • What’s less effective, more effective, and essential?
  • The science behind deep consumer understanding.
  • The correlation between language and organizational perception,  particularly in marketing?
  • Understanding and implementing the REDUCE framework.
  • Why reframing your questions are a key catalyst for change?
  • When does uncertainty become a catalyst for change?
  • The importance of mitigating the distance barrier.
  • Why bragging about how good you are is exactly the wrong thing to do?
  • What it takes to let go?

Resources:

This episode was originally published here on 33voices.

An Interview with Kapil Gupta on The Hidden Dimension of Sustained Performance

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In their initial episode of 2020, Kapil and Moe discuss why the Truth often eludes us, why it always lives in the question, and what happens when you discover it. They also explore the hidden dimension of sustained performance & the deep patterns of the mind.

Why Performance is Always a Byproduct

I’ve always had a deep desire to contribute to the success and wellbeing of others – it’s what gets me out of bed in the morning and it’s why I love to share what I learn. And, it’s perhaps why I have so much appreciation for the opportunity to engage with Kapil. His is a perspective that never fails to challenge the depth of my thinking, and this episode is no exception.

Mid-way through our conversation, you’ll notice him pushing me to tell him ‘why I always want help people?’ And while I’ve always felt it as a calling or somewhat innate; he helps me see it from an angle that I’ve never really considered. Listen for yourself and see how it impacts your thinking.

Episode Overview:

  • The myth of new year resolutions and goals.
  • Why and how the present always dictates the future?
  • Why the Truth is so elusive to most of us?
  • How you’ll know you’ve discovered your Truth?
  • What we get wrong about performance?
  • The Truth about the pursuit of ‘no-mind’?
  • What we miss when we help someone?
  • What makes a legend?
  • The ultimate trigger of fear?
  • What we get wrong about hard work and effort?

Resources:

This episode was originally published here on 33voices.

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